Question to Admin of Lefora communitys

Well. its impossible for any of us to judge this situation. Because all were hearing is your side. SOmewhere down the line, you must have broken forum rules. it is extremely rare for admins to ban someone willy nilly. and i mean extremely rare. and especially if its such a controversial issue of religion. If it's all the same, I would just leave this forum alone. and if it means that much to you, why dont you start one of your own? what im saying is that ,cahnces are, that you did something to upset them or deliberately went outside forum rules. my advice would be just to leave it alone from this point.

It is not rare at all on Nature or God, I was posting in reply to some raving loony  (probably junky) members heckling me and then to see the manager there encourage and allow the raving extreme atheist posters to call me knight,  was not on. Wrenna knows I am a theist, and although knight was a theist and still shows as a member, he had been banned before I joined them, and some of the members there started to call me knight the minute I arrived.  They must be real scared to death of knight, he rises to challenges and posted the top posts on there, they just had no way to beat up on his postings, so banned him before I went there. Its like if theists agree with each other on posts, or support each other like the atheists totally support each other, automatically three or four heckling atheists bound in complaining and heckling that they must be the same person posting, go figure that one? I did nothing wrong as admin can read on the site, look under Teflon, my name is still there on postings I made, so if you don`t mind nicky, research the site, before throwing your hammer at me for asking admin in lefora what comeback decent people get from a site that accuses you of being someone else the minute you arrive on it! what comeback do those banned get when their names and postings are left on lefora forums as if they are still members, and what fairness is there if any manager can just decide they don`t like the challenge theists present, and the manager agrees with hecklers and trolls? its misleading to invite theists if all they seek are the ones only they, can challenge, yet the ones like myself that know how to debate and challenge atheists, get banned.
teflon

what comeback decent people get from a site that accuses you of being someone else the minute you arrive on it! what comeback do those banned get when their names and postings are left on lefora forums as if they are still members, and what fairness is there if any manager can just decide they don`t like the challenge theists present

-teflon

Well, there's no comeback, is there? It's the Founder's site do with as they wish - 'play God', if you will.
There's nothing you can do about it. If you want a fairer discussion forum, I do believe there's a place you can make one for free.
 
And there's no justice, there's just us.

It would be nice if all the freeeks could have their own little forum....it would proberbly do quite well

It would be nice if all the freeeks could have their own little forum....it would proberbly do quite well [image]

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LOL Burt,  they have got a place, its called Nature or God..and it is proving very popular, just a shame lefora allow managers to set up sites calling them LETS COME TOGETHER and THINK, when what they mean is, let Atheists piss on Theists and be no brainers!

btw who gave my opening posting two thumbs down and I would think in a forum for members support this wouldn`t be allowed without showing the menbers who thumbed it down

I am known as Teflon, yesturday I joined Nature or God managed by Tete and Wrenna, my question to you is why are managers allowed to invite THEISTS to their forums, but when THEISTS post good debate postings they ban them without warning and not only did Wrenna ban me, she did not say a warning or why she did? I posted a You Tube debate she got heavy over, then she banned me for telling her in her complaints thread, to lighten up! This would not have been so bad, or upsettting to me, if she had said why to me and all the members? instead she banned me, and then AFTER she banned me, she accused me of being knightoftherealm another member and a THEIST there she banned, and he is her top posting, I am not knight and see this as liable from a manager of lefora forums, I am asking what you as admin are going to do about these upsetting lies about me by Wrenna a manager on Nature or God forum?
Teflon

-teflon

I repost the OP in case members can`t see it by the thumbs down.

I am known as Teflon, yesturday I joined Nature or God managed by Tete and Wrenna, my question to you is why are managers allowed to invite THEISTS to their forums, but when THEISTS post good debate postings they ban them without warning and not only did Wrenna ban me, she did not say a warning or why she did? I posted a You Tube debate she got heavy over, then she banned me for telling her in her complaints thread, to lighten up! This would not have been so bad, or upsettting to me, if she had said why to me and all the members? instead she banned me, and then AFTER she banned me, she accused me of being knightoftherealm another member and a THEIST there she banned, and he is her top posting, I am not knight and see this as liable from a manager of lefora forums, I am asking what you as admin are going to do about these upsetting lies about me by Wrenna a manager on Nature or God forum?

Teflon

Teflon I read your You Tube debate with Hitchens and D`souza and it was a great posting, its funny wrenna and some from nature appear to have thumbed down this posting, it is hidden, but I can read it, so  why hide a post that is the truth?  I will advise you teflon that wrenna allowed rich to call you me, and has left that up on the site, I will tell you that she is not an atheist, she was known by MSN groups in Wiccan and Witchcraft groups that were strongly anti christian, ie the dark side, so its not all atheists at all,  its pagans on Nature or God attacking christianity. Someone called Grovelady was known to write anti christian articles on Witchvox, you can look it up. Teflon they are not Atheists they are Anti Theists. I would agree its upsetting for your name to made out to be me. I nor you were the worse by any stretch shape or form on NorG

knight

Nickyjames I fail to see how its impossible for lefora adminstrators to clamp down on rougue managers who ban and allow ex members names that are theists like myself to be defiled by them and the anti theists,  they are the ones who behaving abominably.
 
knight

As Wrenna appears to be about right now, maybe she could answer for her actions?  Yes Teflon, my post above has just been thumbed down and Wrenna is on here,

Managers on here, IE lefora, the entire complaint by Teflon is a valid one, both he and I are members of Lefora, imagine now after this blacklegging about our identities, done by managers of your site Nature or God, how do expect teflon or myself to join in other communities on lefora? without the same crowd who go on spiritual sites asserting the same fantasy fictions and lies and delusions about us being the same person?

knight

(ps teflon lets see how long Grecham lasts, he is a good poster there, he hasn`t been ridiculed to quite the degree we have, just yet, but wait until the pressure starts.)

*ugh* you guys wanna go start your own forum to quabble over this crap. please. youre taking up precious cyber space.

I'm an atheist (well, not really - I'm agnostic, because I think it's just as silly to say that there is NO god as it is to say that there IS one, at least any one of the gods described by any existing religion today.. but let's not go there) and I agree with the thread starter. And I must say I'm surprised that he's getting so many thumbs down.
That said, the fact that you have been dicked over by a forum admin using a Lefora forum doesn't mean that the Lefora crew can, or should, do anything about it. If you were treated unfairly, that means the forum sucks and you should stay away.
There are PLENTY of atheist/non-believer forums around that welcome open and enlightened debate on the topic of religion and faith. 
Note that I know NOTHING about whatever happened before that caused you to be banned. I'm assuming here, of course, that you were in fact banned simply for disagreeing with the others. I'm not taking sides :)

veanovia I have atheist friends on other sites, (not lefora ones lefora is new for me) and buddhist ones, and we can debate quite well even though we differ on faith and belief, (its down to the managers to manage the threads that get out of hand by those who ridicule and personally attack posters not the postings all threads long,) I can appreciate the wisdoms written in any faith or non faith. In answer to your question, Yes, teflon was banned for no reason at all, and I was banned for others continually baiting me, and being very rude, but when I got occasionally down there with them, ie: when in Rome I got made the exception to the many doing it, and banned by bias managers. I am not a victim and I don`t suspect Teflon is either, he is just asking admin here what to do, why he gets to be called me, on one of their forums and banned when he clearly did nothing at all wrong to get banned, and Wrenna just took a guy called Richw word for it that teflon is me!  ( I noted she now closed the Reincarnation thread by richw in complaints about teflon being me - thats progress I guess)  I just read all of teflons posts there and he said nothing rude or out of order or even an expletive. (The site is open to browse )
aside: (teflon, I have just read your reply to my Unexpected Way post , you posted a very good study and link there that no one came to debate, I found this part on the link you gave very interesting.)
http://lifeanddoctrineatheism.blogspot.com/2007/02/is-atheism-religion-obviously-answer-is.html

nickyjames old boy or old girl, no one is dragging you to this thread to complain about this thread and as a member not admin, what has it to do with you? why does it concern you? and why the ignorant commetary at Teflon!

veanovia says: and I agree with the thread starter. And I must say I'm surprised that he's getting so many thumbs down.

I agree, its a conundrum to me too!

knight

 (I noted she now closed the Reincarnation thread by richw in complaints about teflon being me - thats progress I guess)

hi knight, that would of course count if she had done the same on dorids German Measles thread but she has left that about me up on display .

hi veanovia thank you for showing your support to my opening post questions to admin:  it is sad it has been thumbed down, nevertheless, my few postings on NorG  (indeed very few, I was only allowed to remain there for a day) were not me asserting for or against anyones philosophy, we all struggle on our paths, we are all adults but it appears some cannot conduct themselves when their philosophies get challenged, they prefered to accuse me and call me knight instead, ottermon there also asserted it along with a few others, on the German measles thread,the managers did nothing, but when I answered ottermons accusations my way, in kind, by asking him was he wrenna, that suddenly got edited out and deleted,  many there accused me, in my opinion, of what they, are doing themselves. I was a new member and to get greeted by innuendos from all sides, on an outrightly supposed Welcome to Teflon thread that attacked my reason for joining, by sisyphus, who I could just as easily assert is otter who could be tete or wrenna who knows? is intimidating for even the steeliest of nerves. Then to be banned for nothing with no warning or explainations well that in itself speaks volumns.

Someone called Grovelady was known to write anti christian articles on Witchvox,
 
that figures knight, not that I have any issue with witchvox I don`t read it, but she must have issues with christians in general, a site which allows atheists against theists should not disportionately target christians alone, they should target all religions or none, she and ottermon both thought I was quoting the historical Constantine the Roman, lol! when my quote is taken from the film Constantine with Keanu Reeves where he says to Rachel Weiss  "You don`t believe in Evil, but Evil believes in You"

teflon

Hi everybody -  an admin from Lefora here.

I'm locking this thread as it really pertains to community decisions and conversations from another forum.  This is a support forum for technical questions and customer service for the Lefora Forum Hosting platform (software that runs 10s of thousands of forums).

if anybody would like to follow-up with me, including teflon, please send me an email at 'chief -at- lefora.com'

Individuals arguments or acquisitions of members within a forum should be handled by the admin or moderator of that specific forum, the support forum cannot help out in these matters.  We will either lock threads of this nature, or remove posts if they make personal attacks at members, use foul language, or have some other negative connotation.  We take these actions in order to keep the support forum positive and enjoyable for all members of the support community.