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quasar
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#0, by quasar, 20 May 2009 06:50 AM

will admin get more control of their forum ?? re set  pass words for members ??  add avtars for members ? the list goes on  so much control has gone after we were moved on to here now we can not help them at all, also will the avtar libary be getting any better as its a joke at the moment.
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#1, by coloneljack, 20 May 2009 07:12 AM

Password reset is automatic, and can be done from the log-in page.

I think the 'add avatars for members' has been mentioned before, and I can't remember what the answer was :$ However, Lefora's view on members' profiles is mentioned here : http://support.lefora.com/2009/01/04/edit-member-profiles/2240738/


"there are a few philosophies of lefora that differ from phpBB, one of them is a bit more individual rights to community members - admins cannot edit member's profiles and they cannot change a member's post (however an admin can delete a member's post). This is to ensure the rights of members within a community and are a bit more reflective of real world communities. That said, no feature in Lefora is 100% unchanging, so we might change this policy in the future, but so far, preserving the rights of members has been a very positive thing on the forums."

-Chief




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#2, by caraseta, 21 May 2009 08:47 AM

Hi, i'm agree with "individual rights to community members", but i think if an administrator or a forum founder modifies a post it will be for a possitive reason and it will be for better operation of the forum.

Now with the takeforum migration, a lot of nicks of the memebers of "my" forum have been changed because they had incompatible characters. I would like to change these but it can't.

Most of members don't know how to change their profile and they usually say to us (administrators) to change it.

I think than to reduce administrators possibilities is a back step for forum maintenance.

An administrator is a person who ensures the smooth running of the forum and it is assumed that what is good for all


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#3, by guest, 21 May 2009 06:27 PM
"there are a few philosophies of lefora that differ from phpBB, one of them is a bit more individual rights to community members - admins cannot edit member's profiles, EVEN THOUGH THEY CAN NOT LOG ON & ADMIN HAS TO RE REG THEM MANUALY WE HAVE A LOT WHO STRUGLE WITH EMAILS, and they cannot change a member's post , EVEN THOUGH IT MIGHT HAVE BAD LANGUAGE IN IT?? I WOULD CHANGE THE WORDS TO MORE APROPRIATE ONES , NOT DELETE A WHOLE POST,(however an admin can delete a member's post). This is to ensure the rights of members within a community and are a bit more reflective of real world communities.HA HA REAL WORLD COMMUNITY HA HA WE ARE WATCHED & MONITORED ALL THE TIME IN THE REAL WORLD, That said, no feature in Lefora is 100% unchanging, so we might change this policy in the future, but so far, preserving the rights of members has been a very positive thing on the forums."

WHY HAVE ADMIN ON THE FORUM IF ADMIN CAN NOT ADMINISTER THE FORUM BUT JUST SIT BACK & WATCH?? JUST SITING BACK & WATCHING CAUSES MORE PROBLEMS JUST LOOK AT THE REAL WORLD WHERE EVERY ONE SAT BACK & WATCHED WWI -WWII- IRAQ -AFGHAN - THE ECONOMY - THE LIST GOES ON,

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#4, by bc, 25 May 2009 02:07 AM

Incredibly stupid, I agree. Preserve the users rights - hahaha. Give me a break.
In addition to the abovementioned, the admin cannot:
forbid uploading images
move single messages,

Guests can answer to messages even if the "only members can post" checkbox is ticked.
Apparently posting and answering are different thing to the designers here  ???
Note that I unticked the 3th box - so that new members must be approved. THen the second box "only members can post" becomes gray and anybody can answer to threads.
How pathetic.

Sorry, this software is in an embryo phase yet.



breezey
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#5, by breezey, 25 May 2009 02:46 AM

I would not want anyone else to be able to change my words on a post. I once joined a site that allowed that. They changed the words to suit how they wanted things worded.Many times, it changed the whole meaning of the post. I don't think anyone should have the right to change how another words their post. If the post is in poor taste, has offensive language, etc... delete it, tell the person why and they can always post again.

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#6, by bc, 25 May 2009 03:21 AM

breezey, the logic must be the other way round. If you as a user don't like the place, don't post there. The administrators own the place, they set up the rules, not a third party like in this case. A weak leader means a weak team.  A strong leader might be a dictator, yes but as far as he had set up the forum it is his right to be strong.


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#7, by coloneljack, 25 May 2009 06:42 AM

bc, you realise your whole post above could be could be applied as an answer to your first post?
However, I think being able to forbid uploading images is a good idea.

This is an old debate - I would only be in favour of editing posts if there was some way of making clear what had been changed, when it had been changed, and by whom.




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#8, by chief, 25 May 2009 12:35 PM

Guest cannot post if a forum is set so that 'only members can post', if you have your forum set to that, and have guest posting, please let us know so we can investigate.

The preservation of member's posts is to give members more rights on Lefora then they other forums.  Admins cannot change posts as to preserve the speech of members.  You could consider this more of a philosophic choice of the Lefora team and can read more about it here - http://support.lefora.com/2008/10/08/frequently-asked-questions-w-answers/page1/#post1312551  We have plans to build out more features here around allowing updates by admins on existing member posts (clearly marked).

We're sorry that transition to this fact may be abrupt if your forum behaved another way in the past.  There are a number of features on Lefora that don't exist on most other forum software, like the ability to embed youtube videos, automatic spam detection, rich user profiles, a rich text editor, and search engine optimization on public forums.

If you are having other problems with your forum, we can investigate, just email me directly at 'chief -at- lefora.com' with a link to your forum and a description of your problem.  If you have other feedback and criticism, I'm happy to hear it as it gives us a better understanding of what features to build out on Lefora - we're in active development, adding new features weekly (another thing you probably haven't seen on other forum software).  We're working hard to make the transition of takeforum forums a smooth one, and are fixing any problems as we're made aware of them.

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#9, by mattb4, 25 May 2009 12:45 PM

Since Lefora policy on this is clear regarding Edits, all I could wish for is a way to allow  Individual edits rights to be temporarily granted by a Moderator (Not to the Moderator to edit) beyond the normal 15 mins. time. Thus the poster would make the edits to their own post with Moderator review. Sorta a re-granting of the 15 min. time to edit. Deletion of posts is not the best for posts that contain instructions nor is reposting the correction latter on since this may not be read before someone does something.

By having a method to allow the owner of the post to edit for a temporary granted time period would satisfy those who were afraid that their words were being altered by someone else. It would also give the Moderators of the Forum a tool that could save the thread structure. Deletion can seriously hurt a ongoing Topic because of the missing information. Others posts may reference the post deleted and thus become out of place.

I agree a method to disallow image posting would be a good option, although I would not use it in my Forum.

Edit: BTW a method to hide a post while a review period by Staff was ongoing would be nifty.

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#10, by mattb4, 25 May 2009 01:18 PM

Hmm... I see the Lefora folks are up with the crickets this Morning - PDT. Not only that its a Holiday in the States. Must be having a working holiday Weekend since I have notice Chiefs posts, Samuel and Cookies being Online through out. Hope they brought plenty of Beer and Brauts to carry them over. wink

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#11, by chief, 25 May 2009 04:50 PM

thanks for recognizing matt, yes we've been online over the holiday weekend to make sure everything is up and running well.  With all the importing recently, it's put more stress on our servers, so we want to make sure there are no issues or downtime.

and thanks for the feedback, it will be considered in future developments around posting, but no changes are schedule for sometime.

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#12, by coloneljack, 25 May 2009 06:52 PM


I agree a method to disallow image posting would be a good option, although I would not use it in my Forum.

-mattb4

Especially with the limited bandwidth/storage (I use the term limited loosely - it is still generous ;) )



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